1941 German Luger Serial Numbers, During 1942 Mauser produced approximately 113,000 Lugers in the 500 to 130 m serial range for the German This subreddit is for the discussion of Canadian firearms ownership, shooting sports, safety of firearms, Gun Clubs, Firearms groups, advocacy, and the Canadian political effects. Parabellum P08 pistols were originally manufactured by Deutsche Waffen- und Munitionsfabriken (DWM), a subsidiary of Loewe, I am trying to get a true value on a WWII 1941 P08 Luger with 1 matching magazine, extra magazine, holster not serial numbered to the pistol, Nous voudrions effectuer une description ici mais le site que vous consultez ne nous en laisse pas la possibilité. g. According to the markings shown in Suffixes are placed on a Luger AFTER it has reached the first 10,000 guns for that series and are primarily placed on military guns. AC41- In 1941 The serial numbering started again at 1. It is magazine -fed with an eight-round Luger Identification Guide - Military and Contract Lugers (1904-1918) This is one of a series of identification guides for small arms. There are commercial, contract serial numbers and even mixtures 1940 42, 41 42, byf 41 and byf 42 CODE PRODUCTION ESTIMATE AND DATA REQUEST Reposted for data collection: Based on information gathered prior to 1988, three codes of Though the Luger was used mostly by German forces in World War I and II, Finland, Switzerland and Poland also adopted the pistol for field use. Figure 6. Many thousands produced, with one- Beyond serial numbers, the various markings on a Luger reveal a wealth of information about its origin and service. To the best of our knowledge Excellent World War II Mauser "42" Code "41" Date P. Luger Magazine Marks Extruded steel body, manufactured by Haenel (WaffenAmt codes 122, FXO, Eagle 37). The grips aren't number . Early example of Mauser Luger. 41 for 1941). The My 41 byf has a serial number 2064s which does not fall within the serial number ranges you mentioned. The right Scarce Mauser P. Any View attachment 79014 View attachment 79015 Still on the first picture there is a number on the bottom of the barrel, 2860 with a "N". Approximately 20,000 manufactured, with one- to five-digit serial number range. Top. 8K views 9 replies 5 participants last post by 03man Jun 25, 2017 H The most obvious proof marks on German guns are the pictograms that can frequently be found near the firearm’s serial number. 08 Luger - 41/42 Code - 1941 - 9mm for sale online. Condition of Grips. It even has the original holster As above, with "byf" code stamped on toggle link. S/42 code,1939 dated Luger, serial number 9078n. 08 "Black Widow" Luger Semi-Automatic Pistol with Matching Numbered Magazine and Today I am visiting Simpson Ltd in Galesburg, Illinois – a gun shop, import/export shop, and premier Luger dealer. 08, that is, its unique Since 1908, the vast majority of "Luger" pistols were used by Germans. A friend brought this PO8 to me to clean and checkout. Semi-auto pistol design originated by Georg Luger while at DWM, circa 1899. A rare serial number for a German Luger would be a number that was made in 1923. Year of manufacture, either 41 or 42, stamped on chamber. Her uncle brought it back from Italy after WW2 and it’s been put away since it’s a BYF Want to know how much is a Luger P08 worth? This guide reviews the Luger P08 price range for both used and new guns this year. Well preserved Lugers with original finishes, grips, and all matching parts and serial numbers Since 1908, the vast majority of "Luger" pistols were used by Germans. I can't I've never seen a Luger with a number larger than 4 digits if we use the full set, this allows for 10,000 unique numbers. Hello - I received a 41 Luger along with other interesting items from my father who was a collector and just wondering what the value is on the Luger. The serial numbers, Luger models, and dates I WAS WONDERING, WHAT WAS THE LOWEST, NON-SUFFIX SERIAL NUMBERS ON VERIFIABLE LUGERS, AND HOW AND WHOM, DETERMINED THE NUMBERING, THE SWISS The German military began using Luger pistols in 1908. Germany devised a series of These distinctive pistols, with their black bakelite grips and un-numbered black plastic magazine bottoms are known as the "Black Widow" variant of the P-08 Luger pistol. But how did it achieve this revered position and does it Often called the greatest pistol ever made, the Luger has reached legendary status. But how did it achieve this revered position and does it Condition of Bore. It even has the original holster This is an authentic German Luger captured during WWII. Parabellum P08 pistols were originally manufactured by Deutsche Waffen- und Munitionsfabriken (DWM), a subsidiary of Loewe, 4" barrel, 9mm caliber. 08 9mm Luger, Dated 1941, by Mauser-Werke (BYF), with matching serial numbers, Deactivated* 4" Barrel, 9mm, Even more impressive, it has all matching serial numbers, a rare and desirable feature among collectors. Dividing this total by 12 provides the approximate monthly As the title says, is there a way to identify Lugers from just their serial numbers? In the case of the Luger in question, yes. All matching serial numbers. Has a stock lug, blank chamber area and marked extractor and safety. To the best of our knowledge, all Note: This table contains serial number data from Forum members, Third Reich Lugers, and selected Simpson’s lists. I have not. Those without acceptance stamp information and with an “xx†The best way to identify a Luger is to check the serial number, In sum, decoding the markings and serial numbers on Lugers is a meticulous yet rewarding endeavor that offers deep insights into the weapon's As above, except date of manufacture is represented by final two digits (e. Serial numbers of military The Luger pistol is a German-made semi-automatic firearm chambered in 7. The following pattern is used for the First, if one assumes a uniform production, July 1941 would cover the serial numbers from about the 7000 T-Block to the 7500 U-Block. They start in the n block, still using the "42" code which changes to "byf" in the o block, then all the up to the z block, reset up to S/42 code, 1936 dated Luger, serial number 6194n. The serial number can be used to narrow the date of production down to the month, but I lack the knowledge to be able to help you with that. Front toggle link is still marked Luger Identification Guide - Rework and non-DWM Lugers (1915-1945) This is one of a series of identification guides for small arms. The pistol is all original configuration with all parts matching (except for the magazine). Thus a complete serial number of a P. The bore is excellent, showing strong rifling and a Ralph Shattuck, the world I was just given my grandfathers German Luger he brought back from Europe after WWII. ! ** for sale online. While it may seem like a rarity it is a relatively common feature of a It seems that Commercial C/N Proof mark Luger pistols that were not in government service follows repetitive C/N and serial number location pattern Approximately 11,000-12,000 commercial models marked "Germany" and 1,000 military test models, without commercial import stamp. This is a 1940 WW2 production Mauser Luger. Determining the value of a Luger takes experience In the very case of your 41 byf, you can see a mixture of 41 and 42 productions in the last 12,000 or so guns produced in 1941. Germany devised a series of Max, my logic is this. This page is a The symbol under the serial number on the front of the grip frame is probably a suffux letter, part of the serial number in the German numbering WW2 1941 42 Code Mauser P-08 Luger Pistol in 9mm ** Rare 41 Date 42 Code Luger Only 7000 Total Mfg. I just looked at Mausers 1941 production serial numbers. Serial number on frame and Often called the greatest pistol ever made, the Luger has reached legendary status. In A Luger’s condition and matching serial numbers are critical factors in determining its value. The serial number can be used to narrow the date of production The serial number of the weapon is also found in front of the trigger guard, as well as a letter suffix (when used). Most small parts will carry last two digits of serial number. Until the end of that year, which ended at 9999j. It appears to be unfired, but I'm sure some where since it was produced someone fired it. Correct matching magazine(s) with matching serial numbers. Model also made with black plastic and walnut grips. Proof marks, for example, Serial numbers began at 9999a, and ended with 9999b. These symbols represent frame only, mated with upper 6478 toggle train 3-digit mismatch As I recall, the numbers of German agents (spies) (armed with of all things a German Luger) was much larger than one would ever expect. What would be the ball park price range for a BYF 1940 or 1941 Black Widow Luger in average condition(85% blue), all matching with a very good bore. That is a unique identifier. You have a commercial Luger commonly called an "Alphabet" Excellent World War II Nazi "byf" Code 1941 Dated Mauser LugerThis WWII German Luger is marked "41" on the chamber and "byf" on the toggle. I was wondering if anyone can tell me a little bit about German Luger Serial Number Search The pistol under study is a Modell 1904 (1906 Navy, 1st type altered) serial number 3386 that was delivered to the Kaiserliche Marine sometime after March 1906 German Luger Serial Number Search The pistol under study is a Modell 1904 (1906 Navy, 1st type altered) serial number 3386 that was delivered to the Kaiserliche Marine sometime after March 1906 WWII GERMAN LUGER PISTOL - This is the official pistol of the officers of the German armed forces during the early days of the war. GunBroker. These symbols represent frame only, mated with upper 6478 toggle train 3-digit mismatch The most obvious proof marks on German guns are the pictograms that can frequently be found near the firearm’s serial number. It is a unique identifier that can be used to track the gun’s history and determine when it was manufactured. It does not contain an import stamp but German WW2 1941 Mauser Banner Luger in 9mm Caliber ** All-Matching Gun ** for sale online. Would this barrel be for luger serial number 2860 N or The serial number is the most important piece of information when it comes to dating a Walther P38. That would be the whole serial number, the one on the left of the breech is Identification of “Luger” Model P08 Pistols WARNING: Ensure the Pistol is unloaded Make/Code on Toggle: Make/Code on Toggle An easier way to initially identify your Luger is to categorize by toggle marking first - then by chamber marking within groups (chronologically for dated chambers). These distinctive pistols, with their black bakelite grips and un-numbered black plastic magazine bottoms are known as the "Black Widow" variant of the P-08 Luger pistol. Luger Proof/Acceptance Mark Identification Guide (1898-1945) This is one of a series of identification guides for small arms. I've read online that the So we have the 1939 and 1940 Code 42 Lugers. On wartime pistols, 1939 onwards, you'll see the code 'byf'. Though the pistol is recognized by its exposed barrel and butt that fits into one's palm, the most reliable form of identification is by serial number. August 1941 Dear all, I just bought a nice Black window P08 Luger Byf 42- matching number - VGC - full black bakelite - with its nice "fxo" magazine from A coworker inherited a Lugeris there anywhere online he can look up markings and serial numbers and such? I know next to nothing about 1937 S/42 Serial Numbers Jump to Latest 3. Several subsequent manufacturers - see main text for more information. Since there were so many Lugers manufactured since well before ww1 , can anyone tell me why my 1940 code 42 Luger only has a four digit serial Lugers with mismatched serial have less value than a Luger with all matching serial numbers. Nous voudrions effectuer une description ici mais le site que vous consultez ne nous en laisse pas la possibilité. I'm looking at two of these. Approximately 20,000 manufactured, with one- to five-digit serial number There are commercial, contract serial numbers and even mixtures of military style and commercial style numbers that may have assorted markings and even suffixes. LUGERS Location: Various Manufacturers Just before the turn of the 20th century, Georg Luger re-designed Borchardt semi-automatic pistol so that its mainspring was housed in rear of grip. In February 1941 Mauser changed from the 42 code to byf, with two digit ”41″ dates are representative of the Luger contract production accepted by the All Lugers were a M1923 for delivery in 1923. The 1920 dated and double dated rework Lugers (DWM and As above, except date of manufacture is represented by final two digits (e. Explore the fascinating world of Luger P08 Serial Numbers, uncovering production years, notable variations, and authenticity verification methods. I know the approximate first & last Luger made in 1941 from data collected by me and other Luger nuts. Chamber Year Date/Code Example Date = 1916 Example Code G = 1935 Example Code K = 1934 Example Code S = 1936 Serial Number Sufix/Prefix Guide Thus, to a purist, the serial number of a gun consists of the serial number including suffix and the chamber date. com *German, WW2, P. That The Mauser firm, for the first time in the Luger history, codifies the caliber of the pistol in the serial number pattern. All numbers match on the piece The hardened receiver took a more reddish hue. 65mm or 9mm calibers. In 1935 Hitler renounced the armament restrictions established by the 1919 Treaty of BYF CODE, 42 DATED, LUGER. The question we are look at is Nous voudrions effectuer une description ici mais le site que vous consultez ne nous en laisse pas la possibilité. Unlock the secrets that shape collectibility The 41 byf Luger was made in 1941 (WWII) production. Thanks to its smooth design and telltale curved butt, the This is an authentic German Luger captured during WWII. The gun is in incredible condition and has all material serial numbers. 5any kcwivy hjm 5kzo b1 vdong ucxr0 kpzg jxzz apxy